tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991002223678957734.post4559707562546220627..comments2024-03-28T10:23:11.232+02:00Comments on Freodom: Mojang vs. Zenimax: the court papersMichael Halilahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00813965292738048095noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991002223678957734.post-77576493470334944042011-10-08T20:40:38.101+03:002011-10-08T20:40:38.101+03:00You're missing the point of the suit.
You did...<i>You're missing the point of the suit.</i><br /><br />You didn't read the post. Zenimax aren't talking about CCGs, they're claiming that Scrolls is an adventure game. If their concern was the future expansion of the products, why didn't they say so? Are you saying that Zenimax are deliberately lying to the court?<br /><br /><i>The trademark attempt is overly broad regardless, I tend to think.</i><br /><br />In what way? They're trying to trademark the name of their game, so other people can't publish a game that consumers might confuse for their game. That's exactly what Zenimax did with Elder Scrolls and what all game companies everywhere do. Did you know Zenimax has trademarked the word "Fallout"? Is that overly broad and unreasonable?Michael Halilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813965292738048095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991002223678957734.post-33988952507475189282011-10-08T17:40:52.287+03:002011-10-08T17:40:52.287+03:00I apologize a bit: At the end there I lost track o...I apologize a bit: At the end there I lost track of what you had been saying, I got foolish.<br /><br />Mojang's attempted trademark would potentially stop anyone else from trademarking "Scrolls" for those things, even when differing substantially, and allow legal repercussion should anyone attempt to duplicate their stuff.<br /><br />The trademark attempt is overly broad regardless, I tend to think.Waffleyonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05087746569746920298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991002223678957734.post-45369388026973520412011-10-08T17:30:29.314+03:002011-10-08T17:30:29.314+03:00Thank you kindly for your article. I ended up writ...Thank you kindly for your article. I ended up writing a huge reply to post to Kotaku, inspired by your post, but sadly I don't have the permissions...<br /><br />I won't hazard you with the whole thing, but I found the actual trademark stuff, you can look it up too with the USPTO (number 85323305)<br /><br />Furthermore, some of my thoughts:<br /><br />At this point, it is lawyers exploiting companies. You have to do this, you have to do that, blah blah blah, we know this stuff better than you, give us lots and lots of money. Nobody stands to gain from these lawsuits other than the lawyers, who will do everything they can to draw them out as long as possible - the results are irrelevant, the legal costs will be paid no matter what the outcome. Whether it costs $50,000 or $50,000,000, the lawyers win, the company who comes out ahead breaks even, maybe ahead a little, and the other one loses horribly.<br /><br />What is going on at Zenimax and Mojang are probably pretty reasonable, I don't think either are villians here, but rather the legal system doing its job (being a horrible, vicious, obfuscated money sink) and companies doing what they think they must (Zenimax being the active aggressor, as they're the side filing lawsuits).<br /><br />It is true, however, that the scope of Mojang's attempted trademark of "Scrolls" is ridiculous. It covers all forms of: 1) Software, 2) Apparel, 3) Toys/Games/Playthings, 4) All electronic entertainment and communications media. This would be for any and every font/style/size/color of the word "scrolls". Essentially it would provide commercial control over the word for all entertainment and apparel indefinitely.<br /><br />Rather than a company's attempt to control commercial use of a word indefinitely, it looks like an amateur company that hasn't decided on a particular logo/typeface being dumb and trying to make way too broad of a trademark claim.Waffleyonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05087746569746920298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991002223678957734.post-53407455305603185302011-10-08T09:29:04.847+03:002011-10-08T09:29:04.847+03:00You're missing the point of the suit. It'...You're missing the point of the suit. It's not about confusion over past games, it's about the future. Zenimax is making a new MMO based on the Elder Scrolls. Maybe they wanted to title it: Scrolls Online. More to the point, say they go with Elder Scrolls Online and it becomes incredibly popular. What comes next? Blizzard released a WoW based CCG so a CCG based on the Elder Scrolls Online is not out of the question. What do you call the CCG. The Elder Scrolls CCG. Is confusion possible between an Elder Scrolls CCG and a Scrolls CCG.... ?Hmmmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12638006558348595990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1991002223678957734.post-85546501377898336502011-10-06T04:41:39.379+03:002011-10-06T04:41:39.379+03:00You wrote a very intelligent and thoroughly argume...You wrote a very intelligent and thoroughly argumented article. I thank thee.<br /><br />On a side note: I couldn't help but notice that the logo of the Swedisch law firm (DLA Nordic), is strikingly similar to that of Mojang. Irony.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com